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Episode 19 - The Ricker Is Back With a Music Episode And More!
Ever had a deer hunt derailed by a run-in with poison oak? Join The Ricker and me in our backyard studio as we kick off the Almost Famous Radio Podcast with some laughs about my itchy misadventure that coincided with deer season. We then shift gears to Halloween, reminiscing about the treats we loved as kids and the myths surrounding them, while pondering how today's trunk-or-treat events reflect changing times. It's a nostalgic and humorous start that segues into deeper conversations about music legends.
We're not holding back as we venture into the realm of rock music, taking on the icons and questioning their lasting appeal. From Bruce Springsteen's "Born to Run" to Neil Young's solo work, we unpack our mixed feelings and personal tastes, comparing Van Halen's frontmen and pondering the title of "rock anthems." With a candid mix of admiration and critique, we explore the vocal talents of greats like Ann and Nancy Wilson from Heart and Lindsey Buckingham of Fleetwood Mac, celebrating their unique contributions amid the evolving landscape of rock.
As we weave through our musical reflections, we touch on the interconnected world of grunge and the poignant losses that have shaped the music scene. There’s a nod to the '80s supergroups and a debate on perfect songs, all wrapped up with listener feedback and a playful suggestion for a winter topic. We invite you to laugh, reminisce, and reflect with us, and don't forget to share your thoughts and topic ideas at almostfamousradiopodcast@gmail.com. Your voice is a key part of our show's journey! Check our website out at afradiopodast.buzzsprout.com where you can get to see and know about all of the cast members and hear all of our present and past episodes!
from our humble backyard studio. This is the almost famous radio podcast with your host jeffy mcjefferson.
Speaker 3:Let's go, and welcome to the Almost Famous Radio Podcast. Jeffy McJefferson, here, along with little Rick App. Hey, what's up, man? You see it. Yeah, of course we go around the table. We'll go across the table today. Right, what do you got?
Speaker 2:I have a Ninkasi Red IPA.
Speaker 3:Yeah, interesting.
Speaker 2:You're going to have one by the end of this. It's really good, probably after one by the end of this.
Speaker 3:It's really good, probably after this, because I got bodys off. Uh, yeah, you know what I love that stuff. Anyway, yeah, go ahead and explain, um, what we're, what you were talking about, man, because what happened to you last weekend ah well, it was opening weekend, deer season and ders, we were out and I managed to catch nothing but poison oak.
Speaker 1:So it's really cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, poor Rickerman, his arms are all jacked and he got it in his eye.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not good. But hopefully I'll get taken care of this week. And it's not, you know, it's really funny, it comes and goes. How irritating it is. Yeah, yeah, sometimes it's like funny it comes and goes how irritating it is. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes it's like you don't even notice it, even though you're covered in it yeah. Then other times it's like I want to scratch the shit out every piece of skin I got.
Speaker 3:Yeah, are you giving out Halloween candy this year? I'm saying use it to your advantage here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I may or may not, I don't know. I usually do, but I always end up it's like I don't know the kids.
Speaker 3:They just don't come through the neighborhood, like I don't think it's as big of a deal as it used to be for us well, I'm the same, because we, we, you know, red goes, couponing and all that kind of jazz and and she's got like a bunch of Halloween candy that she gets for next to nothing, of course, of course, and we never get kids hardly here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean it's kind of funny. I'm great with you know, I'm fine with the little kids coming through, but you know, when it gets towards 9 o'clock and it gets to be teenagers with pillowcases and you know.
Speaker 3:Well, 9 o'clock, that's way past.
Speaker 2:It's like, yeah, I'm done, you guys go buy your own candy. What?
Speaker 3:does it even fall on this year? I didn't even look to see what day it fell on.
Speaker 2:It's probably going to be like a Tuesday, Wednesday.
Speaker 3:So it's a weekday yeah, I think so Might even be Thursday and plus you know what those truck or treat things have really taken over for kids and parents and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, where you go to a place, and yeah.
Speaker 3:Because I mean, like you know, the myth of the razor blades and the apples. I know Lord knows where that started. You know, you've heard of that, you've heard it. Oh sure, when I was a kid.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we all heard it, we were kids, man oh yeah, so number one.
Speaker 3:it's like if somebody gives you an apple, it's like fuck that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not candy, I want the candy yeah.
Speaker 3:You know.
Speaker 2:And number two I don't know where that razor blade shit started, but it's like, come on, well, you never know, it may have had some kind of origin and truth, but how long ago was this?
Speaker 3:And where was it at? It was a long yeah, Because you never seen real reports of it, I guess.
Speaker 2:I never heard one when I was a kid.
Speaker 3:You should Google it, because you got Google now.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 3:I never knew it. Nobody in our neighborhood even gave out apples. No, hell no. And they gave out big candy bars. Then too. They didn't have these little bite-sized sons of bitches.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and I remember it was either candy or Do you remember those little booklets that the church would give out? It was like a picture book of a Bible story. Do you remember those getting passed out during Halloween? No, I don't yeah, yeah, well, that's the one year difference between you and I. It probably stopped right with me, maybe I don't yeah, yeah, Well, that's the one year difference between you and I probably stopped right with me.
Speaker 3:Maybe I don't know it's just like but.
Speaker 2:That's what it was. It was always wrap candy or those.
Speaker 3:The wrap candy was that came in the orange and black. They're kind of like peanut butterish or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know they were okay, but you know I could always do without candy corn. Yeah, I hate it.
Speaker 2:Every once in a while it tastes okay, but it's like so rarely. It's so sweet it makes your teeth, you know, slime over.
Speaker 3:And then you got like always got the good old sweet tarts and uh, right, and the chico sticks, yep, and stuff like that. And then the candy bars and stuff. Yeah, that was right. But yeah, I guess they did have the miniatures back then, but they were all like hershey's miniatures and right and uh, I know, when I was a kid I didn't like the dark chocolate. I love dark chocolate now, but back then I'm like I kid, I didn't like the dark chocolate.
Speaker 2:I love dark chocolate now, but back then I felt ripped off Right when you got dark chocolate Instead of milk chocolate.
Speaker 3:Instead of milk chocolate, or like a crunch bar or whatever they had in them, you know, in the almond thing or whatever you know Good.
Speaker 2:Bar, mr Good Bar, Mr Good Bar, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we were talking at Cartwright today this is totally off the Halloween subject, but about you and I. We like music. In the words of Joe Dirt rockers through and through, pretty much. Yeah. So we were talking about successful singers with shitty voices. And so we were talking about successful singers with shitty voices, and we can start with you.
Speaker 2:And first one you can start with, and then let's talk about why I think that. Well, it was actually yours when we were talking before, but my number one's got gotta be Springsteen. Yeah, I mean, he just has to follow it in the top spot.
Speaker 3:I don't understand it either. I don't. I don't understand, Sorry. I don't understand the obsession with them.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know, maybe you know I maybe they put on a really good live show. I don't know, I'd never go because I don't like the music particularly at all.
Speaker 3:A couple songs, I don't mind A couple songs I don't mind. I hate the fact that they call Born to Run a rock anthem, the rock anthem of all. Don't tell me what a rock anthem is. It's not that yeah it isn't. I hate the song.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I like the stuff like. I like glory days and stuff like that, but nothing major I can't really think of good.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, it's not like you're going to go for a drive just to listen to it. If it comes on the radio and you feel like it, you won't turn it off.
Speaker 3:That's as close as you get to liking it right um one of mine and we were like I said, we talked about it. It's like bob dylan, absolutely. The guy's voice is like terrible yep, and he's like he's I mean, he's iconic to people yeah I don't why I don't know I mean seriously, I I don't think I've heard any song of his that he sings, right. Okay, I had to clarify that because we were talking about hendrix and yeah along the watchtower right but any song of his.
Speaker 3:And then he's got that goofy microphone holder and then he plays harmonica. He's got that goofy harmonica holder and he plays harmonica too. Which harmonica drives me bats, does it really? I don't even know. Is there any good songs with harmonica? Besides, I don't even know if that is Well Alvin and Chipmunks. He wanted a harmonica. But I mean, come on, is there any good harmonica songs?
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, See, now I'm going to have to think about that, and I don't Not really.
Speaker 3:Not really going to have to think about that and I don't, uh, not really, not really, not that I can think of. Did piano man from billy joe have harmonica? Was that a harmonica? Yeah, I think it is I think that may be the only tolerable probably harmonica song.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that is. I think that is a harmonica.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and so any harmonica song for me is out Pretty much Thumbs down, way down hugely down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, so we got Dylan and we got Bruce Springsteen. So it's back to me.
Speaker 3:We can just talk about any of the guys that we talked about today, because I think we should.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, neil Young.
Speaker 3:Neil Young has a shitty voice.
Speaker 2:Yep, he might have been good in harmony with, you know, crosby, stills, nash and Young, but Again, as a solo act, yikes.
Speaker 3:I can deal with Rockin' in the Free World. I kind of like that song.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:The lyrics. I really don't give a shit about that much on that. Usually I like songs because of lyrics, but I just kind of think the song's kind of cool sounding it is.
Speaker 2:He's not a bad songwriter. He's not a great songwriter, but he's not a bad songwriter. He had some okay songs, but again overrated and terrible voice.
Speaker 3:Thanks to Ronnie Van Zant calling his ass out. Southern men don't need him around anyhow.
Speaker 2:Right yeah.
Speaker 3:Because they don't need him around.
Speaker 2:That's it, they don't.
Speaker 3:they don't need him around, that's it, he can fuck off go back to canada go back to canada or you know, do whatever you need to do. That's all. That's all perfectly fine.
Speaker 2:We we kind of disagreed on david lee roth yeah, I I know you liked him I like him and I thought that he, uh, he was a good complement to the music, but he is not a great singer, but he sounded good, like I said, the first three or four albums that they put out they were all good, they were great.
Speaker 1:I liked them.
Speaker 3:And I was also talking about Sammy when he joined the band. I really liked Sammy when he joined the band. I really liked Sammy when he joined the band. I know that we kind of got a little disappointed in Ed because he wanted to do a lot of keyboards and shit.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:But he started that with David Lee Roth and, like I said, jump.
Speaker 2:He did.
Speaker 3:That song Jump. I couldn't stand it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, yeah, well, you know, they jumped right out of there at that point because they sucked.
Speaker 3:And well, you know, they jumped right out of there at that point because I sucked. Well, you know I got to hand it to Roth because he was kind of getting pissed off at it. He wanted to keep you know rock, rock, solid songs, and right, he didn't want to throw keyboards in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And they did.
Speaker 2:And they did.
Speaker 3:That's Ed's band. So what the hell are you going to do?
Speaker 2:You're going to fight him.
Speaker 3:No, no him no no, so then sammy came along and they they did a few things with keyboards and stuff like that man, but at least you know it brought another guitar into the fold it did, it did and so that's what I love about it too, and plus I like sammy hagar, so that helps yeah, and hagar's got a a.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say he had a great voice, but he's a better singer than David Lee Roth, definitely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's pretty apparent.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we went to that.
Speaker 3:We went to some shitty singers. Well, even you said Hendrix wasn't a great singer no but serviceable, serviceable yeah, and he, he did.
Speaker 2:okay, you know, he, um, that's like, that's like uh, um, oh gosh, dang it uh. Stevie rayughan, yeah, I mean, he was a good singer, but not a great singer.
Speaker 3:He was a really good. I thought he was really good for the style of music.
Speaker 2:His voice was very complimentary of that type of blues music.
Speaker 3:It's funny because I was talking, I was about to leave Cartwright's you had left before and Caroline and Krista was there and I didn't mention this and I said most successful singer with a shitty voice and the first thing that popped up in her was Janis Joplin. Oh, so she, Krista, that was her first one, right?
Speaker 2:up her head, yeah.
Speaker 3:And I agreed with her totally.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I agreed with her totally. Yeah, I, it was a screeching, not one song of hers I like None. I can tolerate them, but it's not something I'd seek out.
Speaker 3:Absolutely not. No, I would, I would just assume, go through a root canal or something like that, not worth throwing stones at. Oh hell no.
Speaker 2:As you like to say, I can't stand it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and, like I said, ian Anderson from Jethro Tull, I can't stand Jethro Tull. And then I thought his, I think his voice it's just Aqualon. Yeah, you know like, come on, and what the fuck is an Aqualung? I? And then every song, a lot of songs that he'd come up with after that. You know he brought up Aqualung in the lyrics. Right, I'm like okay, whatever the hell that is, I probably should look it up. A lot of people probably gonna know, oh, come, come on, dumbass. You don't know what aqualung is, but I know it's a song I know those songs sucks, and I know that he freaking kept bringing up aqualung.
Speaker 2:After that I'm like that's terrible, terrible, terrible stuff. Yeah, I don't have the hatred for it that you do, but again another, another band that I would seek out very much hatred yeah, well you know, because it it just sucks.
Speaker 3:And who else are we talking about?
Speaker 2:gosh dang. Uh, well, I thought we started talking about singers that were underrated.
Speaker 3:Well, we did that, but I I'm sure I'm missing some yeah, because I, I because I didn't think Plant was good and you thought Plant was all right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think he was pretty decent.
Speaker 3:You know, and stuff like that. I don't like his voice.
Speaker 2:His voice ain't great, but he's yeah, but again there's one of those things where it's like could you put anybody else singing those songs? Can you think of anybody who'd do it better?
Speaker 3:I don't know. And see, I love Ozzy, I love his music, but I think his voice stinks. Yeah, you know. Yeah, I just don't you know.
Speaker 2:Great songs.
Speaker 3:Great songs. Some freaking great albums. And of course he's got, you course, as we said before, a lot of compliments, complimentary to the style of music that they did, things like that, but voice-wise not so much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And then we had some trouble thinking of successful singers with great voices in the rock side. Or even on you.
Speaker 2:You know we have mentioned a couple of other ones, but yeah, I mean uh, oh, another shitty one real quick, willie nelson, yeah yeah, no doubt terrible yeah yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3:I really don't even like a song, I don't know, I don't know. A willie song I like on the road again makes me want to kick somebody in the teeth was it?
Speaker 2:it wasn't. Uh, you were always on my mind, and that one is you know, I guess that was tolerable I think I not not by him, but you know there were other people that sang it that right okay, pretty deep you know yeah it was okay it's kind of really good.
Speaker 3:It's kind of a good song right so I'll go ahead, and I'll go ahead and give him a little bit of props for that, even though that yeah yeah, he's, but he quit smoking weed, so that's a yeah, what an idiot.
Speaker 2:Because what is he like?
Speaker 3:what? What I mean because, like what is he? I know I'm not proponent, you know a proponent of weed smoking, but he's like what, 90-some-odd years old, yeah, and he drank and he smoked pot and he did all this other shit and then he lived until he was living into his 90s and then he stopped. I mean, I'm just waiting for him to croak over just because of the fact Right, because, yeah, the detox kills him. I mean, what do you got to lose now? I mean, you're living on borrowed time anyway.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean, hell, this guy's like okay, so I'm going to stop smoking. Yeah, I don't believe it one bit anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know, I don't think so, I don't think so I just have a hard time believing that.
Speaker 3:You know he stopped smoking weed. Yeah, I believe, like Seth Rogen. If he said it I'd definitely call him a liar Right? I think that Willie Nelson saying it is just as much of a liar as Seth Rogen, even though Seth Rogen didn't say it.
Speaker 2:But I'm just saying Right, if he would have said it, you would have called bullshit on it right there.
Speaker 3:Absolutely, I'd call him bullshit. Totally bullshit singing right. If he would have said it, you would have said called bullshit on it right there, totally bullshit. So on on. On the other hand, the successful singers ahead great voices, either rock or even some of the country stuff uh, we had a few, yeah, I uh, we had a harder time thinking yeah, it's not an easy one.
Speaker 2:You said tommy shaw and I think that's probably.
Speaker 3:I'd say tommy shaw was probably up there and possibly underrated too I think underrated because dennis young got most of the most of the pub on that right but and I didn't think dennis young was that great, but but he could sing pretty good. Yeah, I like Styx.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they were fine.
Speaker 3:Oh, you know what Singers, successful singers and this is one we didn't mention and I'll bring it out right now Ann and Nancy Wilson, from Heart.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And also, I think, lindsey Buckingham and stevie nicks and christine mcvee from fleetwood. I don't think that they're. They had any flaws in their voices and they were all totally different and it worked. Yeah, you know yeah so that was one that just just now popped in my mind yeah, those are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, those are good ones, those are good ones.
Speaker 3:Because I like Fleetwood.
Speaker 2:Mac, yeah, yeah, I mean literally. You know how many times has Rumor's been said as the greatest rock album ever.
Speaker 3:I totally will. You know what I talked about that with Ron in the very first podcast, I think Did you. You know what I talked about that with Ron in the very first podcast, I think Did you, and we were talking about the best album, the perfect album, right, and to me that was the perfect album.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't see there's no flaws in that album, right, especially since they were all breaking up, right.
Speaker 2:And it's just flat brutal the way the songs were.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all freaking digs at each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're, they're like totally and yet they came together and still made the music right.
Speaker 3:It's like okay yeah, and then even went on tour and stuff like that and they're promoting the record and then and and stuff like that and then. But it was, it was extremely brutal, yeah, what they did. And then they ended up putting out one of the best albums probably ever yeah way better than any beatles album uh, yeah, yeah, I'd say so because I'm I'm not a beatles fan.
Speaker 3:I think some of their stuff is okay, but it's a little too bubble gum for me. A lot of it and then and then the rest of it's like stupid hallucination yeah, psychedelic horror shit yeah yeah, and so I am, and I I don't get it. Maybe you could help me out on this. But everybody was like, okay, the beatles were my inspiration to start being a musician and I like why the only person I can think of with the Beatles that would inspire me was George Harrison, because I think he's a badass.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he was.
Speaker 3:But McCartney and Lennon I just didn't think were badasses.
Speaker 2:No, but they did have you know some of their music was pretty decent.
Speaker 3:They could write songs. I mean, I get that, yeah. But when they went out on their own a couple of lennon songs, I I thought was okay, not the ones. Everybody's thinking that. Imagine song I hate it, right. Um, um, that strange days indeed. Song I like it, yeah, I don't even know. That's really in the title of that song I don't, I don't know, paul. Mccartney. There's not much I really like.
Speaker 2:No, no, not a single thing. I don't like any of the Wings music.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't either, sorry.
Speaker 3:And then both of them have wives that were interjecting and everything, and they both couldn't sing worth a lick, Right? So screw that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and like you said, george harris, not well, you got to give props to ringo ringo is kind of good ringo's kind of singer. But no, but I mean as far as somebody who takes the place of somebody and rides it for all it's worth and has been in a lot of good bands yeah I mean, he was in uh traveling wilburys right was he I think, so I thought it was him, wasn't it him?
Speaker 3:orbison tom petty I thought it was. It was george harrison, tom petty, jeff lynn of yellow and let's say, orbison already yeah yeah, okay, oh okay. Oh yeah, tom Petty, I don't think Ringo was in that. He might have played drums on it, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Okay, I thought he was in one of those combination bands.
Speaker 3:I actually kind of like some of the Wilburys' music. Yeah, I do too. There's another one, tom Petty. We love Tom Petty yeah.
Speaker 2:Not a great, not a great voice. His songs were phenomenal yeah, to me, and you too. We were talking about yeah, yeah, he, he not, not the, not a great singer, but uh boy, again it musically good songs. Yeah, put out, put out a lot of good songs good songs, man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. So he was good. We like he said, we said steve perry from journey.
Speaker 2:Steve Perry from Journey, definitely a great voice.
Speaker 3:Not a big Journey fan.
Speaker 2:Nope.
Speaker 3:It's okay. I mean it's for your high school chicks and all that kind of stuff, but Neil Sean could play yeah. You know, and I guess Jonathan Cain was the keyboard player. I guess he got together with Robert Palmer and they had that damn, what was that group that they freaking put together? God dang it. It's like slipping my mind right now I don't even have my phone to check it, but they had some cool songs.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah okay, but they had some cool songs. Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:I sure wish I could remember the name of that band. I can't believe I don't. It's just slipping my mind. It sucks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can't think either. I know who you're talking about. I can't remember.
Speaker 3:Power Station, that's what it's called. Yeah, power Station. Yeah, they were kind of a cool little. A lot of those bands kind of started forming together, you know like that in the 80s and stuff like that, from other bands like Damn Yankees, damn Yankees. I really liked that band.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 3:That's Tommy Sean's head Yep. And Jack Blades, and Jack Blades, yep. And then I liked, I really liked Asia, who was like yes, and some other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, who was in that?
Speaker 3:Good question, but I really. They only put out like I think, two albums, maybe three. But I loved Asia. A lot of people make fun of it. They make fun of it in the 40-year-old version because he had that Asia poster in the frame.
Speaker 2:Oh, no way yeah.
Speaker 3:But I like the band. Honestly, I played the crap out of that record. Yeah yeah, it was kind of cool.
Speaker 2:Another good one that we were talking about, and this may be more on me than any anybody, but I think that scott wyland had a good voice. I thought he did too I thought he he had a good range and he could. He could sing a lot of different types of music. Yeah, the bullhorn kind of threw people well, yeah, you know, but well it was just his stick, justick.
Speaker 3:That was just him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was a weirdo.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was, yeah, and, like I was telling you, jeff Tate, I thought, and Brock was the best voice ever, I think, from Queensryche.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I think his range is just incredible. Just even on Silent the City he was like listen to Silent the City, you can hear his full range, yeah yeah. Silent lucidity was like just listen to silent city, you can hear his full range, yeah yeah. And it's like, oh, you know who had? Okay, we didn't talk about him, but who had, who had a? Really he had a really good voice and really unique voice to me was paul rogers from bad company I, you know when you, when you said something about what's his name from the babies john wait john.
Speaker 2:Wait, that's, that's who I was going to say. At the same time, it's like, yeah, paul Rogers.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And he's another one who floated between groups. After bad company he was in some band with a bunch of other.
Speaker 3:Yeah, did they do a collab band or something? Yeah.
Speaker 2:I can't remember what it was Gosh lab band, or something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can't remember what it was. Gosh dang it. I can't either. This really sucks. You get over 60 and your freaking memory goes. Yeah, it's like it does suck, you know, because you know that I forgot what band he that he that he did, but but I really liked his voice and uh, well, actually you know talking about damn yankees. I went to the damn Yankees concert um Oklahoma and bad company opened up for him, but it was like the other non Paul Rogers.
Speaker 3:Paul Rogers. The guy could sing. He had a high range voice, but then that was. That was the eighties for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And then not you. Was it the 90s? No, it was the 80s. But yeah, he had that big range of voice and stuff like that, like all the hair bands and stuff had, because you had to sing high, like Sebastian Bach, who was a great voice.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 3:And stuff like that. So you really had to have a high range voice to even thrive in the 80s hair band scene.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like.
Speaker 3:I was saying, except for Bret Michaels, he didn't have to have a high voice.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:If you remember Poison's songs, they're not like one of those high Sebastian Bach type voice deals.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, gosh, dang it. I was just thinking of somebody. Yeah, I can't remember. I'll, I'll remember in a second, I'm sure. Um, yeah, there, you know, it's almost as hard, you know what it is is. Sometimes you can't remember.
Speaker 3:Well, I threw a lot of great ones before we did shitty ones right there.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah. Sometimes you kind of forget who really had good range and who didn't. Gosh dang. There's so many bands out there that you could talk about that, had you know singers that were either good or really not good yeah, because, like we're talking about paul stanley from kiss, he was kind of a mid guy.
Speaker 3:He wasn't great, he didn't suck, but he was, he was okay, he had, yeah, decent voice, right, you know.
Speaker 2:And stuff and getty lee, and you know, getty lee not a great voice, but uh like.
Speaker 3:Perfect for the music bands yeah, so yeah but yeah, I mean and and new stuff.
Speaker 3:I don't really, you know, I don't really, I can't really. None that comes to mind are the newer stuff, or at least not newer stuff, but I mean even in the 90s rock and that comes to mind, or the newer stuff that are at least not newer stuff, but I mean even in the nineties rock and stuff like that, and then the newer stuff. I really can't think of a whole lot. That blew my mind, cause I, you know I like food fighters, but you know girls voices Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. And like you were saying, you know, kurt Cobain was never going to win awards for vocal range. Not going to happen.
Speaker 3:I didn't think his voice was very good, but it was perfect for that, yeah, perfect for that deal that you know, the game changer of music, yeah, of what they did was pretty incredible because coming off of the hair bands and stuff like that, and they just said, fuck you, yeah, we're going grunge, we're going garage, we're going to do this stuff and come out with it and people ate it up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Lane didn't have a great voice. He had a good voice and he had a decent range, but he didn't have a great voice, but it was perfect for the music. Yeah, axl rose was pretty good axl rose was pretty good, yeah, yeah they helped out.
Speaker 3:They helped usher out the hair bands as well they did. They were kind of that bridge between the two yeah, they just did you listen to a lot of hair bands, I think oh yeah of course, because that was rock then Right, that's all you got.
Speaker 2:That's all it was.
Speaker 3:It was all metal hair bands, metal hair bands, yeah Rat.
Speaker 2:Poison and freaking Cinderella Right Freaking.
Speaker 3:Y&T.
Speaker 2:Y&T.
Speaker 3:Wasp, and then you got crap like Europe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I couldn't do that. That was terrible.
Speaker 3:Who was in Night?
Speaker 2:Ranger.
Speaker 3:And that.
Speaker 2:Jack Blades was in Night Ranger. Yeah yeah, they were pretty decent.
Speaker 3:They were too bad. I liked Night Ranger yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they were one of those you know 80s hair bands kind of. I guess they were kind of one of those. They were in Branson when we were there but we didn't get tickets to go see him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you just wonder after, but they were like man a concert tickets suck yeah Nowadays.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're way expensive.
Speaker 3:Yeah and uh, cause I had like this kind of a but it's kind of a festival-ish type thing and they had a lot of bands you had to pay a shitload of money and Night Ranger was in one of those.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know my days of going to a concert that last more than two and a half hours. No, no, I couldn't do it. You know the idea of an all-weekend freaking music festival. Yeah, I can listen to music in my car.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'd like to go see bands. I love live music, but I just there's nothing out there right now that I would pay to see. No, I mean, you could go see people at brit for not too bad of a price, right, um, but they have to be decent. I don't know who would.
Speaker 3:Who you would go see every time I look, you know, because brit publishes their lineup for the year like in the spring yeah and every time I look it's like I don't know any of these people yeah, and then I mean zz top was out there and and I know this is going to be sacrilegious to people, but I can't stand ZZ Top.
Speaker 2:Really I don't.
Speaker 3:No, I don't.
Speaker 2:No see, there's a good one. I think that Billy Gibbons' singing voice is less than stellar.
Speaker 3:Less than stellar, yeah, but yeah they. I never, really. There's nothing that really turned me on about freaking.
Speaker 2:ZZ Top. See, but I kind of like that.
Speaker 3:It's sacrilegious to a lot of people.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's sacrilegious, because if you don't like it, you don't like it.
Speaker 3:I don't like it.
Speaker 2:But again I like it. I again I like it. I thought they were a good band. They were a good three-piece band.
Speaker 3:I'll give them credit where credit's due. It's just that I didn't you know, I call them ZC Slop, that was my name for them when they came out. I mean, I didn't really. There wasn't anything that really did like. I was like man, that's a pretty great song. I mean, you're singing songs about TV dinners and shit like that. I was like you know no See, I didn't.
Speaker 2:You know, Eliminator kind of ruined them for me. I mean, I didn't really care for.
Speaker 3:That was a little too commercial.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a little bit too commercial. I like Deguaylo, that's a good album, but yeah, not really, not so much.
Speaker 3:Eagles man. I love the Eagles.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I mean, look at all the talent they had.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, there's singers out galore out of that one I.
Speaker 2:There's singers out galore out of that one. I mean everybody could sing, Hanley could sing. Except for Joe Walsh yeah well yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:Joe Walsh's voice sucked, but you could tell it was Joe Walsh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I mean Glenn Frey could sing a storm up and Hanley could sing.
Speaker 3:Timothy B.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:He could hit the high stuff, yeah. But yeah, that was a great band.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, they were.
Speaker 3:We didn't talk about them earlier, but now we are.
Speaker 1:But yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Because I do, man. There's not much Eagles that I don't like.
Speaker 2:You know, I've heard it so much that I'm kind of tiring of it. Well, I mean it's been. You know 40 years of it. Well, I mean it's been. You know 40 years of it, 50 years of it being poured down your neck. It, yeah, gets old. It's like stairway to heaven. You just you've heard it so many times that it's like it turns into an earworm.
Speaker 3:It's just the yeah yeah, I don't like it. I didn't think that was a fantastic song anyway.
Speaker 2:Stairway to Heaven. It was okay.
Speaker 3:It was not like oh God, stairway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, same with freaking Freebird.
Speaker 3:No, I like Freebird.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can't do it.
Speaker 3:But I'm a Skinner fan.
Speaker 2:I like Skinner, but that's one song that just freaking, it's just like. It's just like a stairway to heaven.
Speaker 3:I liked a lot of other stuff before free bird, but I did like free bird. It's not like it wasn't. I don't know, man. I think we were talking about that. I do like it, man. That was almost a perfect song freebird yeah uh, maybe, maybe just for me I think we were talking about that with ron I think freebird may be a perfect song uh, it's perfect in some way for me.
Speaker 2:I'd perfectly like to never hear it again I don't know I, I can't do it. It's like really good, I mean I'm not saying it's a bad song, just like stairway to heaven, but I just I've heard it too many times.
Speaker 3:I don't want to hear it yeah, well, I mean because you know you gotta, is there a perfect song for you? Because we were talking about, like I said, we're talking about that, we'll do it live I don't know.
Speaker 2:That's a. That's a really good question, I because we talked about perfect album.
Speaker 3:And then we talk about you know, perfect song, or did it vice versa, one of the one of the two you go back and listen to it's episode, one people, but um, perfect song. And then we kind of agreed on freebird on that, because I think it is yeah whether you like, whether you've heard it a million times right not, it's just the the song it's very good, I'll give it to you.
Speaker 2:It's very good, uh, I don't know if it's very good, I'll give it to you. It's very good, uh, I don't know if it's perfect though it's clear.
Speaker 1:It's pretty good as you can get it's pretty, it's yeah, it's probably close don't know, whatever, what's going to be a better perfect song than that?
Speaker 2:gosh, I can't think of anything that's do.
Speaker 3:Do you really want to hurt me by Culture Club? Is that better? That's pretty freaking close, and you know what the answer to that question is you don't go wrong with Boy George?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what the answer to the question is yes, I do. That's the answer to that question yes, I do.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, you know, got to give Boy his credit right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I had a girlfriend that loved that fucking group back in the day and I just couldn't stand it.
Speaker 2:You know what? I don't really like pop music, but freaking Wham was good.
Speaker 3:You know I got to agree with that.
Speaker 2:There's somebody who had a freaking great voice George Michael.
Speaker 3:George Michael, george Michael, yeah, dude could sing.
Speaker 2:He could sing anything.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, they had some yeah, they had a run, yeah, and they had some pretty good songs.
Speaker 2:And I don't like pop dance music.
Speaker 3:But they were good. They were good, you know yeah.
Speaker 2:And that was his talent man.
Speaker 3:He was freaking, phenomenally talented One of the big wake me up for you, go, go song. I know but there was other stuff that that careless whisper was a fantastic song.
Speaker 2:That's probably in that genre. That's probably as close to a perfect song as there's ever going to be.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was a great.
Speaker 2:It was about the band. I saw a documentary on the band and there was like a bunch of different iterations of that song and George Michael didn't like any of them until he got to that one. They went through a bunch of different I don't know a bunch. They went through more than one recording studio and more than one producer.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And the cut that everybody knows was not the first one yeah I mean he wanted it perfect.
Speaker 3:Well it was. It was close to it yeah not free bird, but right there okay, this uh, okay, here's okay, real quick, go ahead. Well, I was, I was gonna say, uh, you don't like?
Speaker 2:beach music, right? Well, I was going to say you don't like beach music, right? You're not a Beach Boys, or?
Speaker 3:Oh hell, no, I think. Oh God, that shit drove me nuts.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, I think Dave. Okay, you know what I think about David Lee Ross voice.
Speaker 2:And I think his version of California Girls was better than the Beach.
Speaker 3:Boys. You know what I think I have to agree with that. So you know what I think I I have to agree with that, so you know there's where.
Speaker 2:There's where I stand, there's where I stand on that guy. I see now I like it because there's a lot of harmonies involved and and freaking. Brian wilson was a genius in that I love harmonies too and I do.
Speaker 3:I think that's great. I think crosby stills and dash's on't legendary Right. But I just couldn't do Beach Boys, man, I just can't do the fucking Beach Boys. It just irritated the living shit out of me.
Speaker 2:Now that's funny, because I like that, I like that music.
Speaker 3:That kind of cracks me up a little bit. I would not have thought that at all. I wouldn't think that, hey, Ricker, you're a Beach Boys man by trade.
Speaker 2:Well, monday morning when I go to work, you better freaking. Have it tuned up and ready to go on.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know I, you know one of the 80's bands you were talking about. It was kind of whammish but tears for fears. I, I thought a lot of their. I thought a lot of their songs are pretty good, except for that shout song. I hated it yeah because I mean, we always sing it like shout, shout, let it all out. Yeah, this is a song we can do without Right and shit like that, because the song blew ass.
Speaker 2:Everybody wants to rule the world is a great song to me. Pretty good, it's fair.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And they had some decent stuff and I wasn't really a big fan of theirs but I thought that they had some good stuff.
Speaker 2:No, it's like Wham or freaking Duran Duran.
Speaker 3:There's songs in there you like, damn dude. I'm glad you brought up Duran Duran because I liked them.
Speaker 2:I think that their music was, you know, well done.
Speaker 3:Progressively worse. Right, okay, but I did like Duran Duran, you know, especially some of the early stuff. But then again I liked early Nickelback and the rest of their shit sucked after that too. Um, the early stuff was good, it was it was and then all of a sudden, they went to hell.
Speaker 2:You know, there's a lot of bands like that, like their first, you know bon jovi, okay, bon jovi, okay, let me.
Speaker 3:Let me get this out real quick while I'm thinking about it. Like their first, you know, bon Jovi, okay, bon Jovi, okay, let me get this out real quick while I'm thinking about it. Their first two records, you know, their self-titled one and then 7800 degree Fahrenheit. I thought it was even better than Slippery when Wet, that's what they're big known for. But after, okay, I'll even give Slippery when Wet props just because it was a good record, right. But after, okay, I'll even give Slippery when wet props just because it was a good record, Right. But after that it blew ass. Yeah, he went Ballad City, kind of like Dennis DeYoung did to Styx, right After he did that Babe song. All he wanted to do was fucking ballads and then, REO Speedwagon, which I liked Right.
Speaker 3:And then Kevin Cronin same deal. Yeah, he was like I worked years and years and years on this song and then he started playing it and I was like, oh no, not that.
Speaker 2:You wasted your time, dude. Go back to writing, try again.
Speaker 3:And that was well. I can't fight this feeling. That's what it was.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I'm like, oh shit man, you guys had way better shit than that. You worked years on that, right, you know I got to say that you wasted a lot of time like you said, yeah, but REO, I liked them. I liked them before High Infidelity.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they were okay. They weren't one of my favorite bands, but they were okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, good stuff.
Speaker 2:And Gary Richrath could play guitar pretty good yeah. You know, yeah, but bands that were progressively sucked yeah there's a lot of them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's a lot of them, poor Guns N' Roses they put out such a great first album?
Speaker 2:Yeah, how do you? Repeat that you know, and roses they.
Speaker 3:you know they put out such a great first album yeah, how do you, how do you repeat that you know um?
Speaker 2:like I said, nickelback, but there's probably others. Yeah, there's got to be others, because I um anybody out there? I think, I think you know you probably get into some of the grunge bands.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I think that's where you see a lot of drop off, and part of it is Cobain died so they couldn't go any further, but their first album was great.
Speaker 3:You just brought up a couple of guys that I think that you know, just because of the grunge shit. Oh God, sound Gardens.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Gosh dang it.
Speaker 3:This is pissing me off.
Speaker 2:I know Chris Cornell Cornell yeah.
Speaker 3:Chris Cornell, huge, great voice.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Chester Bennington. There's another one. Yes, fucking great voice, yeah.
Speaker 2:Linkin Park was yeah, they were excellent, yeah, good stuff. But again their music kind of tapered off there. It wasn't as well. I guess they didn't have as big a fall off as some other bands. They were pretty decent, they had good songs.
Speaker 3:No, they didn't fall off.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I was just like I was singing to two great singers.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I want to give them their props real quick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah yeah, chester was right. Yeah yeah, chester Chester was. He was a good singer.
Speaker 3:Good Great, you said Duke and belt. Both of them killed themselves. Thanks a lot, guys. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Chris Cornell had nothing to live for. Really, there's planes that leave out of Detroit.
Speaker 3:You don't have to get that depressed because you're there, just get on a plane, fuckhead. Yeah, it's like it's got, it's just got.
Speaker 2:Crazy man and I've written the. Chester bennington really shocked me, I do. You know there's a lot of conspiracy theories about him, a lot. I don't know if I buy any of them, but there's a lot of them you got any off in somebody told me that he was about to blow the lid off of hollywood and child uh, child diddling really yeah, that something happened him when he was a kid what the hell? Yeah, and somebody wanted him to freaking shut up about it. But I don't again. That's just rumor. I have no idea.
Speaker 3:That cannot be verified, people, so don't get on record.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. And you know that's like with Cobain, you know, having an interview the day before he shoots himself and everybody thinking he sounded perfectly fine. What the hell's the deal? Yeah, or the day of I don't even know. It was really close. He did like a long form interview with somebody.
Speaker 3:Cobain didn't surprise me.
Speaker 2:No, and you know.
Speaker 3:Chris Cornell Chester Bennington. Yeah't surprise me. No, and you know, chris Cornell Chester.
Speaker 2:Bennington, they surprised me. Yeah, yeah, definitely, cornell was a shock, but then you see, like his, somebody did a you know, took a video of him. I think he was at the Fox Theater in Detroit, detroit, in Detroit. Yeah, he looked like ass and he sounded like hell. Yeah, yeah, that was like within the day or two days before. Yeah, he looked like crap. So that sucks. Yeah it, man, because a dude had unbelievable talent. Yeah, I mean Soundgarden was a freaking grade A band. They really were.
Speaker 3:And then, what was the other band he was in?
Speaker 2:Oh shit. We're killing ourselves here With a memory loss. It's freaking ridiculous.
Speaker 3:It's going to come to us, but oh shit, maybe not. You got to Google that man? Yeah, Chris Cornell man. Yeah, I will, Because that's pissing me off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is too much. We got the Google machines right here.
Speaker 3:Everybody out there. Almost Famous Radio Podcast at gmailcom. I would love for you guys to give us some bands. That's progressively got worse. Also great rock singers.
Speaker 2:Audio Slave.
Speaker 3:Audio Slave, that's it.
Speaker 2:He was in another band too, and they had one song that I can remember Audio Slave, audio Slave, that's it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was in another band too, and they had one song that I can remember, gosh dang it, you know Corey Taylor. He sang for Stone Sour and then he also sang for that one group that went I can't remember the name of it, right, but it was crazy how they did all that music and shit. Like then he's saying for stone sour, like duke can fucking sing right temple of the dog, temple of the dog that was the other band that he was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that was a good band, but it's funny some of those, you know that whole grunge scene, a lot of those bands. There were people going in and out of them, especially in like in the real early 90s yeah so there you know there were associations between all these people that came out of seattle in the grunge movement that they're all they you know they were in each other's bands and shit in the early days it's too bad.
Speaker 3:Nobody clotheslined Eddie Vedder and screwed his vocal. No kidding man? Well, I guess they might have, because who knows what the fuck he's singing about. I don't understand any of the shit that he sings, I mean lyrically. If I'm listening to it I'm like what the hell did he just say?
Speaker 2:Yeah or sing.
Speaker 3:Whatever, don't care yeah or sing Whatever.
Speaker 2:Don't care.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Don't care.
Speaker 3:They had a couple of songs that were decent. They did. Don't get me wrong. I'm not going to say every freaking Pearl Jam song sucked, but I just didn't know what the fuck he was singing. I don't know what the fuck he was singing. I don't know how could they put the lyrics on an album jacket when they don't even know what the fuck he was singing about.
Speaker 2:Does it even actually tie to what he was singing anyways?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know, there's somebody else like that oh freaking.
Speaker 2:There's somebody else like oh freaking, oh shit, the lead singer from Motley Crue, vince Neil. Vince, neil, yeah, I cannot. You know the last 10 years that he was singing. It's like are you even fucking speaking English? Well?
Speaker 3:that's the time you can really know anything, because they were sober on that. Dr Feelgood was a totally sober album and that was a freaking masterpiece.
Speaker 2:That was I like Motley, don't get me wrong, I do too. I like Motley, I do too.
Speaker 3:They fucked up a lot of people man on the strip back in the day before they got back.
Speaker 2:They were freaking. Yeah, they were animals. Yeah, no doubt about it but they're cool, man.
Speaker 3:Man I mean, um, shit man. I was watching documentary on it on nicky six and and how he, you know he woke up with a freaking needle still in his arm and shit like that. He was clinically dead for one, you know, and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:He still went out and got heroin and then he maybe just got clean, yeah yeah, it's crazy that whole freaking that, that whole biography that he he wrote and then like didn't he put the six cents?
Speaker 3:is that what the band that he put together afterwards? Uh? It was pretty good, yeah, had life is beautiful on it, okay, yeah, yeah, that's, that was. That was pretty.
Speaker 2:You know pretty good short-lived there's, there's a bunch of them, there's a bunch of those kind of bands, yeah, and then it's just short-lived. It's like uh, I'm in between, you're in between, let's, and then it's just short-lived.
Speaker 3:It's like I'm in between, you're in between. Let's make an album. Let's do it. Yeah, because it always pisses off other band members. Right, you're not involved in it and all this kind of shit.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:You're over there raising a kid or something.
Speaker 2:Right yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm going to go play music.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, I guess that's how it was.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I've never been a rock singer. We're in a band, for that matter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. I think Motley had so many good songs.
Speaker 3:From the jump, yeah, from their very first record and then they even to the last one. I mean that I remember was they even had that Saints of Los Angeles song and they sounded so good, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean.
Speaker 3:I just I thought they were just a fantastic band.
Speaker 2:What do you think about Metallica?
Speaker 3:I think that they're one of the most overrated bands ever See now I like them, but I didn't say I didn't like them yeah I liked a lot, okay, okay they.
Speaker 2:They were great way back and then they progressively got corporate yeah, everybody says the black album is where it went, freaking sideways for and it was a good one.
Speaker 3:It was a very good one, you know, and all of a sudden everything started sounding exactly alike.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, kind of did.
Speaker 3:Yeah, every song sounded just alike to me. Yeah, and plus they pissed me off back in the Napster days because, I had. Napster, when it was free, and then Lars over.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had to go bitch about it.
Speaker 3:They bitched about that shit about free music. Okay, we were downloading free music and shit like that, and then they got the government involved A fucking band like Metallica getting government involved. Right, you sons of bitches, yeah, and then now look everything's free on YouTube. I know, you can listen to any damn song you want. So take that Lars Ulrich right up, your fucking Swedish or whatever, your ass, whatever German or whatever it is, eat it Dane.
Speaker 2:He's a Dane, I think.
Speaker 3:Okay, hell with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Danish ass. Whatever Right, She'll shove it up there.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:That's what will work. If you want to come over here and talk about it, we will. I'm not scared of you I you know what, although you're one of the best drummers ever with the feet yeah but still fuck you, okay, yeah he's yeah, they've had some great songs they have uh but that's a good question. Metallica, Because there's a lot of ride or dies with that band.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of Metallica. They think they're the greatest band ever. I like them and they're good.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:They're good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's it, they're good.
Speaker 3:And yeah, I don't think they're one of the best good, and yeah, I don't think they're like one of the best, although and you know what's weird is they got primo people at each right. Each member that does. Um, jason newstead was a great bassist, right kurt hammett. Yeah, yeah, absolutely and and then, uh, um james hatfieldfield he could play the guitar, not a great singer. But his voice is perfect for what they did.
Speaker 2:His voice is great for the music.
Speaker 3:And then Lars Eat Shit. Ulrich. Right, he probably has the fastest feet in drumming history, even though Neil Peart's a better drummer than anybody else. I'm going to hand it to Neil Peart, not just because they're my favorite band.
Speaker 2:If anyone's challenged me, I'm going to go ahead, you got to put him up there at the top you have to.
Speaker 3:My kid. I remember my kid when he was younger. He wanted to play drums. I said you know what? Okay, if you want to play drums, I want to show you who you want to emulate. And I showed him Neil Peart, and until the day he passed he was like that was his drummer it was Neil Peart.
Speaker 3:He couldn't he wasn't Neil Peart, by all means Nobody is. But I mean I said, if you want to learn and you really want to try to emulate somebody, do that. I mean you're not going to match him Right, but even if you have a little bit of success trying to emulate Neil Peart, you're going to be able to play drums.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:And you'll be fine.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And you'll be better than Ringo. Yeah, who wasn't an outstanding drummer.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:Who was good drummers?
Speaker 2:Bonham, good one, bonham, oh, keith Moon.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Keith Moon.
Speaker 2:Gosh dang it.
Speaker 3:Well, lars, lars, you got to put Lars there.
Speaker 1:We'll give him that credit.
Speaker 3:Piece of shit. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Yeah, we got Lars, but drummer-wise, yeah, like I said, perk.
Speaker 2:Tommy Lee is pretty good. Tommy Lee is a really good drummer.
Speaker 3:He's pretty good. Got to see him live. Tommy Lee is pretty good, Tommy.
Speaker 2:Lee is a really good drummer. He's pretty good.
Speaker 3:I see him live and that dude can drum. He was, he was. It's pretty fun to watch him drum.
Speaker 2:He was bad-ass for a marching band guy for a marching band guy. Yeah.
Speaker 3:The dude could play. He can, he can. So yeah, I mean there's really not too many other outstanding drummers, not that you know not that I'm sure there are. There has to be, I'm sure somebody might chime in on it one of these days and say, hey, you forgot this guy idiot. But you know, I just can't think of any right now, grohl. Eh, he's okay, he's okay, he was a pounder, he was just a beater he just beat the shit out of his room uh, yeah, but smells like teen spirit he was on it that that's a freaking.
Speaker 2:That's such a good drum riff such a good drum riff. Yeah, it really is. Um gosh dang. I'm trying to think, uh, we were just talking about a band who had a a great drummer and I I can't, oh, sound garden. I'm trying to think of their, their drummers, excellent pretty good huh yeah, I never even thought about the drummer on that. Yeah, cameron.
Speaker 1:What the?
Speaker 2:hell. Yeah, I've got it right here. I've got my Google machine tuned up. Get that Google machine going. Yeah, because we need it. Yeah, we do. Come on Soundgarden.
Speaker 3:I don't even know any of Soundgarden's freaking band members' names besides Cornell.
Speaker 2:Kim Thiel, it was a guitarist. Okay, the other, you know the lead guitarist.
Speaker 3:And I'm ashamed of myself for not knowing that, but you know.
Speaker 2:There you have it. Yeah, matt Cameron. Drummer Was a drummer and I think he's pretty damn good. Drummer was a drummer and I think he's he's pretty damn good. Yeah, there's, you know there. All right, drumming is, I'm sure, is so freaking hard that to do it in front of people to be a drummer yeah it's probably the most underrated member of a band, absolutely.
Speaker 3:Because it's hard. I mean it's not easy to do. You've got to have your feet and your hands working at different levels. I mean, I even try to do a drum set and stuff like that. I can do one at a time. Right, I can beat the shit out of some couch cushions with my hands, but not using my feet at the same time, no, and so drummer is probably the most underrated member of any band.
Speaker 2:I think so too.
Speaker 3:No matter how good or bad or not, and I shouldn't say bad, you're good. If you're in a band, you're good, or like you know. So if you're okay or whatever, well, just add singing to it. Yeah, that's the one that kills me.
Speaker 2:Not that I really like some of the singers that were drummers, but Phil Collins.
Speaker 1:Yeah, phil Collins, for sure, or Henley Henley.
Speaker 2:Yeah, henley too.
Speaker 3:Dude from Night Ranger.
Speaker 2:So he sang lead on some. He's a drummer too. Yeah, yeah, henley too, dude from Night Ranger. Yeah, so he sang lead on some of his drummer too yeah. So, Not a whole lot of them, though Lead singer, drummer combinations.
Speaker 3:Yeah, at least sing on stuff like that, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know that's a. You know this is a subject that's really you. It's kind of computer intensive because you, you can't remember all these people, you just can't get it going.
Speaker 3:So here's the great thing about it is is that we hadn't even scratched the surface on half the shit that we wanted to talk about on here, so we're gonna have to do another one yeah, and then we'll just do it.
Speaker 2:I think, when you do something like this, I think three or four people would be better.
Speaker 3:Oh, I think so.
Speaker 2:Because what I forget, somebody else will remember. Right With the two of us, we're just both forgetting the same people over and over.
Speaker 3:Exactly. That's just how we do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's how we operate.
Speaker 3:So we'll get some people in here I'd like to get actually ron in here because he's, he's a music guy. Um, even jason, for that matter, he, he's a. He listens to a lot of music. Uh, um, he's, he's gonna. I can't talk country with him because he's a country, he likes a lot of country stuff.
Speaker 2:I don't really listen to that too much Old stuff maybe.
Speaker 3:Yeah, old stuff, but yeah, I mean, no matter what, who it is, everybody has their opinion on music. Yeah, and that's what's great about this topic, because we can go on.
Speaker 2:I think this might be one of our winter topics, just going on it's just, yeah, you could, you could, you know, and you could incorporate it into any number other subjects you can do. You know, you could do 15 minutes of this right.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, we could go and we'll have other people and then right you know we could do the same subject. We don't have to have the. You know you're like oh man, they just touched on that last time. Well, well, we have other people.
Speaker 2:Right, and now you got other opinions.
Speaker 3:Plus, it's our show, we can do whatever the hell we want.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so yeah, but yeah, I think this is a perfect time to wrap it up.
Speaker 3:Okay, sounds good yeah well, thanks everybody for listening. Thank you, ricker, absolutely, yeah, this is kind of you know, we were just like uh, we caught him out of deer season. He's, you know, he's a deer hunting dude, you know. Except, he's got a lot of poison oak on him right now. So, good thing, nobody wants to rub up against him, no, but, um, you know, you can find us anywhere on your uh, where you, wherever platform you listen to like I said, almost famous radio podcast at gmailcom. That's where I'd like everybody to check out. Man, just, just just. I'd love to have anybody that listens to this go on there and then tell us what they want to do. Let us know. Yeah, topics, yeah, if you want to hear something, let's do it.
Speaker 3:And we want to thank everybody that listens to us, coast to coast, here in this country, to around the world which we are. We have more than one person.
Speaker 1:Even though we're a certain person, nobody's listening.
Speaker 3:All you nobodies out there, thanks, coast to coast and around the world. I'm, I'm, I'm.
Speaker 1:I'm, I'm.
